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15th Aug 2024

Ep.02: Belonging Exchange Conversations: Creating Unity at The Trifling Picnic

Welcome to Ep.02: “Belonging Exchange Conversations” 

In this second installment of our three-part series introducing the enriching work of the Belonging Exchange, we delve into the conversations and experiences from the Trifling Picnic held in Bloomington, Indiana. Hosted by Phil and Elaine Amerson. This episode (Ep.02) features an illuminating discussion with an eclectic array of guests.

**Event Overview:**

The Trifling Picnic, organized by Phil and Elaine Amerson, brought together individuals from vastly diverse backgrounds and faith-based communities for an afternoon of genuine fellowship and interaction. The event's main focus was to create an environment where people could connect, share their stories, and exchange ideas to foster a sense of community and collective growth. The Belonging Exchange aspires to make everyone feel that they belong and can contribute meaningfully to society.

**Key Takeaways:**

1. **Value of Diverse Communities:**

  The gathering showcased beautifully how bringing together people from different walks of life can lead to meaningful conversations and collaborations. A Bloomington city council member emphasized that diversity, coupled with fearlessness, is crucial for community progress. By sharing various perspectives, participants gained a deeper understanding of communal problems and the potential for collective action.

2. **Music as a Unifying Force:**

  Vince Matthew graced the event with his musical compositions, embodying the spirit of collaboration and harmony. Music, in this context, served as a powerful medium to symbolize and foster unity among the diverse attendees.

3. **Intentional Community Building:**

  The conversations stressed the importance of building intentional communities to address pressing issues like food deserts in urban settings. By aligning love and action, communities can overcome fear and nurture a harmonious environment where everyone thrives.

4. **Importance of Individual Gifts:**

  The guests highlighted how every individual has unique talents and perspectives that can contribute to the greater good. Breaking out of segregated communities to form creative and inclusive networks was discussed as a vital step towards societal betterment. Many guests touched on the need for understanding and leveraging different perspectives to solve community problems effectively.

5. **Impact on Family and City Dynamics:**

  The conversations revealed how events like the Trifling Picnic significantly impact family dynamics and the community at large. The inclusion of missionaries, political candidates, council persons, and long-term residents of Bloomington underscored the multifaceted approach needed to promote holistic community welfare.

**Conclusion:**

The episode is a heartfelt reminder of the power of human connection and the positive ripple effect such gatherings can have on the community. 

listeners are invited explore the work of the Belonging Exchange via their website.

https://belongingexchange.org/

This was episode two of a three part limited series “Belonging Exchange Conversations”

Part 01 was an introduction to the vision that Phil and Elaine Amerson have for the the Belonging Exchange

Please tune into Ep.03 the final part of this limited series as Belonging Exchange Conversations will conclude with interviews with an Indiana University Professor and a Habitat for Humanity Home recipient among others.

Transcript
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Hello, good people. My name is doctor Brad Miller, and you are listening to

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the Belonging Exchange Conversations.

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Yes. A short series of 3 podcast episodes to

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introduce you to the work of the Belonging

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Exchange founded by the Phil and Elaine

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Angerson Family Foundation, which is all

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about helping people meet

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new people, discovering friends,

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just meeting strangers and making them friends, and

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to get people connected, to be encouraged, to learn, to laugh,

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to engage, and to meet at least 2 new people

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that they didn't know before. The event was

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called the trifling picnic held on August 4,

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2024 in Bloomington, Indiana. And this is the

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second of a 3 part series of podcast episodes of

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conversations with the folks who were participants in

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the belonging exchange picnic. In this episode,

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they include conversations with a missionary, political candidates,

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personal friends of Phil and Elaine Ampersand,

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pastors and retired pastors, the son and daughter of Phil and

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Elaine, the city council person, and a musician,

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Vincent Matthew, who composed and performed the music you

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hear on this podcast. If you missed episode number

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1, we encourage you to go back and listen to that episode as it gives

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you a good foundation and understanding of what the belonging

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exchange is all about. And then we encourage you to listen to

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episode number 3, which will be a continuation

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of these conversations. You're gonna enjoy this. You're gonna love this,

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and you're gonna learn what it means to be part of a group of

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people that belong to one another. So let's get

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started.

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Tom Heaton from Evansville, Indiana now. Kind of a citizen of the

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world sometimes, but Evansville's home. And, again, Phil

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and Elaine Amerson have been great friends for many, many years. And,

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just here today to to, support them and their efforts

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to support the Bloomington community and to encourage all of us to go back

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to our own communities and form better friendships and better relationships

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with those that are not like us so that we can better understand the world

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around us. And those are not like us is a big part of what you've

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been about, kind of understanding different cultures, different aspects of

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life, and working together in community. What do you think is the

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value then of different groups that are here, civic groups, faith

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based groups, community services? What's

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the value of these different groups coming together to do something good? Well,

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you know, I think the biggest thing to, from today I'm kinda looking at Diane

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as I'm talking to you to see if she agrees with me. We've

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only been here for just a little bit, kind of talking and sharing.

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But what we've really been doing is we've been hearing stories. We've been

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hearing people's stories. And, it is through hearing people's stories and realizing

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everybody's story isn't like our story, that we begin to have a better and

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deeper understanding of the world around us. So I think there's power in story

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and power in sharing stories, and those can bring about, change in a

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powerful and amazing way.

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I'm Adrienne Rockhill, and I am,

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or ordained elder, a pastor in the United Methodist Church serving at Old

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Bethel on the east side. But we live in Bloomington area.

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And, you know, honestly, they'll send us an invite, and

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I thought this sounds amazing. And when I saw that

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Shauna Murphy and Diamon were on the the the list to

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speak, I was sold. So I I think it's fantastic. I had

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no idea that he does this every year, but it's Yeah. Beautiful. What's up? Let

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me ask you first, Adrianne, about some

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specific things here, then I'm gonna get get to you just a second here. What

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do you think is the value of getting do diverse

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groups together, like faith based groups, civic groups,

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business interests, and so on, social services, what have

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you, in order to do something like just rub shoulders together to do something for

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the greater good? What do you think is the the value of that? Well, I

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think, when we're advocating for and trying to

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promote change, in the church, the way we do that is together,

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across all of those different areas that you just mentioned,

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in the community, and that's how we work towards that. And I

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think sometimes the church gets a little too walled off. And so that's one of

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the ways we get outside of our walls. One of the ways we

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hear stories. Honestly, one of the ways we

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find our place as a church, in that wider

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picture is by hearing and and knowing our community. And I think

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that's been really eye opening. With him running for

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office this year Yeah. Is, that's one of the

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things that I've gotten from that is Yeah.

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Is all these political but then it's been eye opening to see,

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like, just so many good people that are working towards change. Sure.

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Well, let's let's talk about that then in terms of the application

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of an event like this, getting these diverse groups together. Yeah. How

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does it apply then to, civic responsibility,

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to the political systems, how there could be some good done moving

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forward? And that kinda goes to, you know, why you were running for office

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in terms of, doing whatever you think needs to be done. Yeah. Certainly.

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So I think the the the common good is the common thread. We're all here

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seeking the common good, trying to make life better for everybody in the

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spheres of influence that we have. And I think the more we can

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synergize in those efforts, I'm running

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for office out of the realization that, charity will

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never fully fix what policy creates. Charity is not a solution

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for injustice, but charity and generosity are always necessary. And the more we can

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come together and imagine a better future and share

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ideas with people who are different from us, who have different gifts and experiences and

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backgrounds and connections, the more we can work together, to serve the

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common good. So perhaps charity and policy do not,

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policy do not have to be kind of separate or even at odds at

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times. They can work together. Absolutely. I tell people, you know,

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politics often is treated like a dirty word and I understand why, but I think

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politics at its best is the way that we love our neighbor in the public

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square. Sure. It comes from the Greek word, you know, that essentially means

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life together in the city. And that's how we affect one

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another's lives, how our lives intersect, and, at its best can be the

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way that everything comes together and we administratively,

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enact the the will of the the people. Oh, very good. Thanks for sharing both

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of you one more time. Tell us your name, where you're from, and what you

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your ministry, and I'll get to you. Absolutely. I'm,

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Adrian Rockhill. I am living in Bloomington, serving on

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the east side of Indianapolis at Old Bethel United Methodist Church as an ordained

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pastor, and, just here to be part of this incredible

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group and get to know some new people and hear some stories.

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Tell us one more time your name and a little bit about the office

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you're running for and what's what's that's all about. Sure. Yeah. So I'm Thomas Horrocks.

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I'm a pastor of Beachwood Christian Church down in French Lick, Indiana. I'm

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also running for, state representative for House District 62, which

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is Monroe and Brown County, one of the most competitive legislative races

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in Indiana that's here.

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My name is Cindy O'Connor, and I've lived here in Bloomington

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for the last almost 48

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years, but I grew up near Brad in Gibson

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County, a little tiny place named Owensville. Owensville. I'm

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originally from Princeton right nearby. So how about that? Small world.

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Small world. World. That's true. What brings you here

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today, and what do you see as the reason this

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event exists? Because of felony lane.

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We love felony lane because when they came to the

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church, our kids were just at the age

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where they loved them as

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much as we did. Our kids Tim was in middle school.

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Phil said he might never do another class of the

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middle schoolers after Tim O'Connor, but he survived.

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Both of them did. He survived. So this particular event

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we're at today is called the trifling picnic and

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belonging exchange. Yeah. You're here

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and there's a lot of folks here from different backgrounds, different

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social groups and faith communities and

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civic organizations. What do you think is the meaningfulness

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or the purpose of bringing people together from diverse groups

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to do some good for the community? What's Absolutely. And that's what,

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you know, I think while Phil was our faith leader

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at First Church, those of us who were lucky enough to be

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there kinda leaned on him for these kind of

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things. And now as we just continue as friends,

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I think still Phil Phil and Elaine are leaders for us

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in all kinds of social event,

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social justice event Right. Kind of things. So do you think

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that this is the type of thing that may lead to other types

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of it's on educational or Sure. Application.

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You know, we've heard about Habitat for Humanity, for instance. Do you think when people

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come together with diverse backgrounds, it can help to be applied to the

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practical matters that need to be addressed? Oh, I do, Brad. I think

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that's really and that's what's so great about being here and being

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with friends and people we don't know, but, you know, we leave

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as friends.

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Drew Amerson, from Oakland, California. I'm the son of

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Filmy Lane, and I am here with my son today. We

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flew out a couple days ago to be part of this trifling

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picnic. Trifling picnic. And what and what's tell us your name, where you're from, and

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what you're from. Anne Murray, and I am the daughter of Phil and Elaine. I

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am here with my 2 boys, Colin, who's 21, and Zach,

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who's 15. We're here to gather

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and be with good friends. Yeah. Meet new friends. Tell me

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what from your perspective, because it's mentioned as a family

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project. It's been mentioned a couple of times that way. Yeah. How do you see

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that, playing out, not only your family

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dynamic, but how there's impact here in this community and other

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communities you've been a part of? Yeah. I think the purpose of

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the Belonging Foundation or the the

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what do you call it? The Belonging, I'm sorry. Sure. Belonging foundation. Belonging.

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Yeah. Is that we need

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more human connection these days, and our world with social

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media and feeling really disconnected. Having connections

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with real people in the flesh and meeting people that you

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can make connections with is what is

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desperately needed in this event is part of supporting that.

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Yeah. And what do you see as the value then of this connection

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that your folks, Phil and Elaine, put together and kind of

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your legacy? And I know your kids were part of it as well, about some

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of them. What do you think is the value of people from all these different

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kind of walks of life? You know, politically, socially,

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ethnically, civic, faith based? What's the

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value of all that coming together to do something for the greater good? Sure. So,

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you know, Elaine and Phil dedicated their lives to this idea of

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community and been really intentional about trying to

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develop that community. And I think this is just a natural extension of that.

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But the cool thing about this is my parents have always

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been pretty high strung. Is that fair to say?

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And I think that in their retirement, they've been able to take a step back.

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And this is a really nice easy way to bring in a

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whole bunch of different folks who otherwise wouldn't get a chance to know each other

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and to build those networks and those connections between these people. So

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it's it's really fun to see. Yeah. That's a good one more thing. How is

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this why do you think this is meaningful to your family as a

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part of just who you are as a family? Yeah. I mean, this is an

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an important piece of, what our family

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and and what we what we care about. We care about connections. We care

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about community. We care about making a better place. We're doing all the good

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we can.

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My name is Isaac Asari. I'm a city councilor here,

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in Bloomington. I'm here because, anytime that, you

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know, pastor Emerson invites you to go places, you go.

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No. But on the on the serious note, you know, the the

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greatest part of this city, are the people in it

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and, the opportunity really to connect with people on a human level and

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to, think about our boldest ideas for

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the future and to work together and in harmony, to

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to make the city everything that we imagine it to be, that we want it

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to be, to really become the community that we deserve to

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be. So I just love those opportunities. So you mentioned a couple of things there,

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boldness and harmony on our financing. What do you think is the value

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of an event such as this which brings together people with

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diverse backgrounds? Might be politically. It might be

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religiously. It might be in the business interest, civic,

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other, social organizations. What's the value of bringing

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those folks together to, kind of rub shoulders together, get to know

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one another in order to see what's next, see what's good. What's

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the value of that? I mean, you know, the apostle Paul said it this way.

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He said we can't all be an eye. He said if we all were an

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eye, you know, where would the walking go or where the smelling go and you

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you name it. And so for a body to function, and we can think of

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our community as a body, if our body is to function, you

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need the diversity of parts. Right? Yeah. And, and so if we're

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going to move in any direction, you know, it's gonna it's gonna

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require working together. And so, you know, I I think it

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and that you you you I I did mention though the word boldness. I think

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that it takes a element of

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fearlessness of of willingness to actually take

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steps forward. I think that, you know, fear,

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fear of the unknown, fear of, Fear of the other. Fear of the

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other. That's right. Fear of just, fear of loss,

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fear sometimes even of success, is is something

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that often captivates and keeps us from moving forward. But, but

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love, which I in my mind is the opposite of fear because Yeah. Perfect

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love cast out fear. And so when I think about operating in

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love, love liberates, love, you know, love

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hopes, love expects, love works together, you name it.

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And it's it's you say all those kind of good good stuff. Right. But

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those things need an environment Yes. To live in. Yes. And

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it takes some and it I'm I believe some intentionality to do

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that. Mhmm. And this seems to be the type of event that could

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be that environment where some of these things you're mentioning, harmony, love,

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boldness, and come together. And perhaps even from

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your civic mindedness lead to some other practical application.

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Yes. You see that as a possibility at least how something like this can lead

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to oh, we've heard about Habitat for Humanity. Other things such as that

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practical application of that love of ownership. Yeah. I mean, right

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realistically, right now, just before you asked me to be here, I was speaking to

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somebody about how do we apply some of the, you know, nice

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intentions that we're talking about here Right. In practice in the city. I

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think that that sort of

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I don't know the best way to say this, but, the information,

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the symmetry in in town often makes it very difficult for

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us to carry out our good intentions. And what I mean by that is that

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we don't always see the every part of the city the same

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way, but we have to be intentional about building communities so that we can get

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a better picture of the city that we live in so that we can get

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a better picture of the actions that we need to take. Yeah. So these diverse

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parts working together for a greater good. Well, that's right. That's right. That's right. That's

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right. But I mean, I think from the from my perspective on council, I was

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just talking to, a neighbor living in Crestmont.

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And, you know, we're talking about how through this whole year, nobody has brought

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up or body has brought up or done any work about,

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the food desert that existed there, and that's been a situation for 20 plus

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years. Yeah. And we started to talk about and actually strategize about how do we

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make sure that this is on the agenda and stays on the agenda. Sure. You

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know, what are actual what are some legislation that we can start to draft and

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put forward, to make a difference? And that's just, you know, a very as a

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chance Encouraged, we both happen to be here, but in talking about

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imagination and talking about building community, that means, okay, like, let's do something

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about it. Right? And what's within our sphere of influence? Serendipitous moments can lead

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to future self. Yeah. That's exactly right. So but but but this and as much

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as we say it's serendipitous, this wasn't this wasn't random. No. I appreciate it.

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Intentional. Right? And so so more of this, please.

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My name is Ruth. I I live in Bloomington, Indiana, and I am

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here because my husband, Vaughn, got an invitation from

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Phil to come, and it sounded like a great event. Awesome.

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So fill down the blanks there. Your your name and why you're

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here, you know, a little more about that. Yeah. So I'm

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Vaughn. I grew up here in Bloomington, Indiana. And

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I've had the pleasure to work with Phil for the past year

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on facilitating the new Beacon Center that we are

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building. And Phil has just been amazing to watch

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as he reaches out and pulls together the faith based communities

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in town to help them figure out what is their role

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in bolstering this important community resource that Beacon

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provides in helping us transition this new center

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over to its, new location over on Third Street. So

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it's just been a pleasure to get to know him some and I was honored

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to come here today, hear more about watching

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him weave the community together and some of the great speakers

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telling their story about community engagement. Yeah. Well, it sounds

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like what you're working on is kind of a manifestation of some of the vision

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that, Phil and Elaine have about taking the

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belonging piece and exchanging it for

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some sort of a greater good. Am am I on target here at all with

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what you're what we're talking about here? I think so, and

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I think, definitely since I've

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retired and have more time and just trying to find

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ways to find belonging in the community

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and to I we moved back here in 2011 and

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to really make connections and see how

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we can make the community stronger. Yeah. So, Von, what do

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you think then is the value then of bringing these diverse groups

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together for civic groups, faith based,

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community organizers, business interests, so so on, to do

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something for the greater good. What's the value of bringing it all together in a

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kind of a social setting like this? Yeah. Well, I I really like the message

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we heard from Shauna this evening about listening.

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And we need you know, it's it's easy for

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those of us who if if I if I give say I

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have the privilege of having a gift, it's so easy to just run out there

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with that hammer and start looking for nails. And with all

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the different perspectives we have in this room, you know, the problems we're

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we're facing today are complicated. They're wish it was

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so easy that we could, you know, do them in an afternoon just working by

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our selves, but they're not. It's a community problem and we need to understand

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all the facets of the problem, all the different aspects of the

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challenges that people are going through, and all the different ways that

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we bring the different gifts together and we can weave those together to

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form a solution. And so a situation like this with

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a different perspective is just really valuable for that. Hopefully, it helps to

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raise raise the greater good for everybody. Right?

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I think so. I definitely think so. And I think as was

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emphasized with the musical instruments, we all have gifts. That was pretty cool

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one. It was really cool. Yeah. And it was like, which one am I? And,

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you know, playing together and the different sounds. And I think,

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we do increasingly segregate ourselves and our

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communities and think we need to get past that

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and and be creative together.

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I'm Tony Alstott and, connected to,

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Phil and Elaine Amerson, through The United Methodist

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Church. And then what do you see and where do you live in

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right now? My wife and I came up together. We live

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in New Albany, Indiana, and I serve Wesley Chapel United United

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Methodist Church. Very good. Well, tell me, what do you think is the value

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of an event like this which brings people together from diverse

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backgrounds, kind of faith based communities, civic organizations,

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other organizations. What's the value of bringing people together to do something good? Yeah. So,

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so so Phil has, quite a sense of humor using the word

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trifling, a trifling party. Played off,

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John Wesley. Let's not trifle about. And,

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so, he's invited us several years. We came,

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we came several years ago and just found the communication

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with people, conversation with people from all over the state of

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Indiana, to be to be wonderful,

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actually, and, get ideas, see what people are doing,

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especially some resources along the way. But but mainly

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just just to interact with folks outside of your local

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congregation. Do you think there's some values of energy in that that can be used

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to do practical application either in ministry or

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some ways to improve the community? Well, certainly,

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that, involvement is is here to take take ideas

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back. I mean, we've already had a a great presentation. I really liked,

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the idea of currency being, interaction

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and friendships, how that's a currency as opposed to a

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monetary currency. And so this is

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an opportunity to, gain currency in

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relationships. And I don't mean that as in using

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people, but just in genuine, genuine fellowship

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and friendships. So is it like because the embodiment of the blessed

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community kind of a biblical sense, I believe. Do you think it is has

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some some bringing of that? Yes. Absolutely.

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Coming together and, you know, don't don't feel any

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any pressure to be, on display as a lot of

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pastors do, so to speak. Anytime I I go somewhere or go out to

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eat, I'm always mindful of who might be there. And,

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in this community, I feel like you can be completely yourself

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and, just have a an enjoyable day

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together.

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My name is Vince Matthew, and I'm

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here because I was invited by Phil and, the

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other director, Rick Morgenstern.

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And, yeah, that's why I'm here.

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They invited me into the space to create something.

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Well and you were a part of the music Yes. Here

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to create something. Yes. So we

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got a little bit of video of that, but I think the vibe in the

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room was such I really would like you to unpack that

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experience, that musical experience, how it kinda went along with the

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theme here of bringing diverse

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folks together to collaborate in something new. Can you just unpack it a

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little bit for us? Sure. So when I heard about,

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asset based community development, that's how it was in it

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was a position to me, by Phil.

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I was all in. It just it really

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made me think about everyone brings the

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best of their own abilities, to the community.

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And when people are recognized for that and they come

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together, you can really create something extraordinary.

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And so I was tasked to come up with,

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well, what would that actually be like? What would that sound like? And

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so what I, I did was about 4 or 5 months ago,

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start curating these ideas. And then the ideas then

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became materialized through what instruments. And, the

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instruments that we chose today, quite frankly,

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are, are children's instruments, hand bells, resonator bells, whistles,

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and, triangles and shakers. And so what

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we did was we invited, each attendee

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to choose one of those instruments based on their

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personality. And so

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when they showed up together, it created this harmonious

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tone in the room. So It was pretty awesome. It it

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really was. Appreciate it because I knew that took a lot of effort

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and thoughtfulness and musical ability, to to do

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that. So that was really cool. Let's connect that then

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to what is kind of the overall purpose of this organization

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Mhmm. Belonging exchange. People to belong together and exchange

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ideas and thoughts. Right. What do you think is the purpose of this organization

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and bringing different folks together to do something good. What

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is the value of that moving forward?

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For some reason, this analogy keeps come popping up into my mind. If

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all the doctors were to congregate in one place,

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no one would get healed. No one would get healing.

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And so it requires everyone's input.

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And I think everyone brings a different, gift to the

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community. And when they bring those gifts or what

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they're saying is assets, then we can all create

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something that that is unlike anything that we've ever experienced.

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So there'd be some dynamic aspect to community. The

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collaboration can create some energy moving

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forward that maybe serve the greater good in ways we don't even know yet. That's

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right. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. And that's really that's the tone

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that we're experiencing throughout in the room in those segments

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really represents that harmony. It's a harmonious cooperation. I've heard that harmonious

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cooperation. I've heard that term harmony or harmonious Mhmm. From several people here today, and

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you being a musician. There's some value when different tones come together

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to cause harmony. Is there not? That's right.

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Yeah. Sometimes

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when things are just one note, it's just one

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it's just one note. Yeah. Right? I can't even explain that correctly. But

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That seems that it didn't get isolationism, perhaps. It could be a metaphor

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there. Yeah. Yeah. And so, I found

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that what could we do by different

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people coming together and bringing those gifts together.

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And so everyone chose an instrument based on their personality.

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When we when we played it together, it created this tone in

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What a beautiful way to conclude this episode

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of the Belonging Exchange launch through the trifling picnic.

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That beautiful way is through the music of Vincent Matthew, who composed

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the music that we, and the songs that were part of the trifling

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picnic, including the music that we used to to be

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a break between the audio segments, the interviews. We

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certainly thank all the people who are part of the interviews. We will

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put in our show notes this, on this podcast

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all the links to we have to the Belonging

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Exchange website, belonging exchange.org.

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Thank you for listening to this episode of the Belonging

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Exchange launch at the trifling picnic presented by the

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Phil and Elaine Amerson Foundation. This was episode

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2 of 3. If you missed episode 1, we invite you to go back and

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listen to that episode, which gives a great introduction to the work of the

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belonging exchange. And please look forward to listening to

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episode number 3 where we will have interviews with an Indiana

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University College professor, a community organizer,

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housing authority officials, and a Habitat for Humanity

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family. Until next time, this is Brad Miller speaking

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for the creators of The Belonging Exchange,

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Phil and Elaine Aberson, in the sure and perfect

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knowledge that indeed we do belong and are

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better together.

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About the Podcast

Belonging Exchange w/ Phil and Elaine Amerson
A "Trifling Picnic Experience"
The Belonging Exchange Podcast is a limited edition podcast to introduce the mission and vision of "The Belonging Exchange." This was done by recording conversations gathered and music gleaned from the annual "Trifling Picnic, created by and hosted by Phil and Elaine Amerson on August 4, 2024 in Bloomington, Indiana. The vision of Phil and Elaine Amerson was to bring folks together from many diverse walks of life to engage in conversation, play, music, work and learning together. The Belonging Exchange was launched at this picnic to be a place where the focus in on human assets enriched and distributed through shared responsibility and talents. This limited series podcast captures some of those conversations with the vision that these shared conversations will strengthen the community connective tissue among citizens within neighborhoods, faith groups and beyond.

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Dr. Brad Miller

I have 40 years of experience in Christian ministry and hold a Doctoral degree in life transformation strategic planning. I am the publisher of the Cancer and Comedy Podcast: Helping Cancer Impacted People to Heal with Hope and Humor